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What do you guys think of my new manga concept Fallen Angel? 

11 deviants said It's great continue !
6 deviants said Seems like it could go somewhere keep going..
4 deviants said Fallen Angel ? What's that ?!?
2 deviants said It's ok .. I'd probably like it more as it continued
2 deviants said Leave it alone focus more on DBSQ
1 deviant said I'm not to sure about it yet ..
No deviants said I don't like it

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Makara design by Moffett1990
Makara design
had to design this character real quick since he was going to be appearing in some back stories in the manga..
Makara was the previous guardian of planet lumbar before Ashu...
DBSQ page 50 by Moffett1990
DBSQ page 50
Page Fifty of DBSQ Art by: karoine  Story by: Moffett1990

In this page Ashu explains where they are and why they are there. 


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Im sure by now all of you have seen BOG. Alot of hardcore DBGT fans believe GT to still be more OP then BOG... 
Im not understanding why... I remember reading somewhere ( I believe the GT Perfect Files ) that SSJ4 Goku = Vegito.
Now if this is the case then GT isnt anywhere near as OP as most believe.

In BOG when Vegeta suggest that he and Goku fuse to go up against Lord Beerus Goku tells him fusion would not be enough to go up against such a power.

(( Keep in mind BOG takes place 5 years after the Buu saga. Both Vegeta and Goku are much stronger which means the fusion would obviously be stronger then it was in the Buu saga ))

Now if the SSJ4=Vegtio holds any truth then this statement here alone puts BOG in GT Tier.


Because SSJG is clearly stronger the Gogeta/Vegtio. By how much IDK but I believe him to be MUCH stronger.
This alone would put SSJG Goku, Lord Beerus, and Whis all in GTs OP tier ..


Now even if this whole SSJ4=Vegito holds no truth at all BOG would still be GT Tier.


Because GT Base kid Goku is believed to be equal to Buu saga Vegito according to most GT fans I debate with. As we just talked about Buu saga Vegito wouldnt stand a chance against Lord Beerus. I myself dont buy that GT Base Kid Goku = Buu saga Vegito and my reason for that is because we dont know the full extent of Vegitos power. That power was never shown we don't even know how much power he used against super buu to try to make any calculations.. 
BOG Vegito/Gogeta> Buu saga Vegito/Gogeta yet still can not touch Lord Beerus so SSJG is obviously MUCH greater then GT Base Kid Goku.. this would also make Post BOG Base Goku> GT Base kid Goku. Considering Goku absorbed the ssjg power and made it his own as stated by both Beerus and Akira Toriyama. Therefore BOG is GT Tier


Here is how I look at it using the logic of most GT fans

Rildo>Buuhan I can agree with that yes but Vegetto is much stronger then Buuhan aswell and that's pretty much at base ... I don't see GT Kid Gokus base being equal to Buu saga Super Vegetto maybe somewhere close but not equal to or greater than. You claiming him to be any stronger is really just pushing it... So let's just say
GT Kid Goku Base > Buu saga Vegetto Base

With that being said BOG Vegetto would be much stronger then Z's Veggetto and could POSSIBLY make it himself threw almost all of the first few baddies .. super 17 possibly some of the weaker shadow dragons..

However that's BOGs Vegetto now ... Let's think here ... Clearly SSJG is much stronger then BOG Vegetto (( which is not debatable considering Goku clearly states Fusion wouldn't help against Lord Beerus. )) Where would that leave him then? I think at the very least he'd be able to beat Syn at the most Omega. ( I lean more toward Omega )

That leaves us with Lord Beerus and Whis who are still WAY stronger then SSJG Goku ...

With SSJG being so close I find it logical to believe that Beerus could deff off omega and Whis would at the very least be equal to SSJ4 Gogeta but I lean more toward greater than


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My Name is De'Andre Moffett AKA Moffett1990.
I'm the creator , writer ,and Original artist of Dragon Ball SQ .
I do all of my images using MS Paint. Unless its a sketch :P I never bothered learning how to use other programs so MS Paint and a mouse is how I do it .... For effects I draw them in paint as well but then I use Gamemaker 8Pro to make them look the way I want like transparent have a glow etc .. after my images are done i shrink them down to smooth out the lines :D

I have two kids
and Im a erie metropolitan transit authority "EMTA" Driver

Any questions fan mail etc you can note me here or email me at

I do accept commissions by Nana-Beats I do not accept requests by Nana-Beats

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Cool... When I get some time I'll look into it.. Do you mind messaging me the link so I don't loose it :P
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
No your not understanding me and you are just being a brolytard (no offense really that's just the name given to broly fans ) your not logically thinking.

I'll break down what I said before. LSSJ is a form on it's own. Meaning IF broly were able to ascend to SSJ4 it would logically go in this order Base, SSJ1, SSJ2, SSJ3, SSJ3, SSJ4, LSSJ ...

Broly does not take the power of the LSSJ and apply it to other forms that's not how it works. If that were the case he would have been extremely powerful at base in the movie and Goku and the others would have known it was him. You compared it to SSJG where Goku absorbed the power and made it his own but like I just pointed out this is not the case Broly can not do that. Which really doesn't matter because the LSSJ4 form wasn't created naturally it was done with magic from the Shadow Dragon. ( which is another stupid factor all on it's own ) with that factor the mistake can be overlooked but logically Brolys LSSJ would only apply to that form if it were to ascende it would be An ascended LSSJ but to call it a ssj 1 2 3 or 4 that it is not .. It is not the same form therefore that's not what it is ...

As for DBH you stated twice that it was a re telling or alternate story of DBZ which again is incorrect. It is not a re telling or an alternate story and here is why .. DBH is about an arcade game .. The events do not occur in the world of the living or in the DBU for that matter it is a video game. In both the manga and the clips that were made to promote the actual DBH card game it is clearly shown .. The boy runs with his card to play the game then is inserted into the game and fights along side the heroes yes there are what ifs and some new characters but it's all just a game it isn't apart of the DBU at all .. It's not a re telling of the story because a re telling would be the story actually being retold or a recreation of the same story we all know for example Marvel and DC re tell there stories to make them relevant DBZ has never been retold it remains the same. It's a video game nothing more it's not canon none of the special characters or transformations actually exist in the DBU. In the actual DBU Broly ( even tho non canon to begin with ) died he is not alive and he did not nor will he achieve anything above ssj1.. Do you understand now ... I know the concept of Broly going ssj3 and ssj4 are somewhat cool but they are not apart of the DBU in anyway. Nor do I find them to be an interesting topic of discussion. Anywho if you wish to speak with me from now on could you please PM me I don't like having such long post etc in my comment section
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