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DBZ God VS Dragon by Moffett1990 DBZ God VS Dragon by Moffett1990
Here we have it Beerus VS Omega Shenron.. Well at least the way I see it :P hope you all enjoy !
I used refs for both Beerus and Omega 
Beerus from a scene of he and SSJG goku fighting 
Omega from a scene of he and SSJ4 Gogeta fighting

I drew this in MS Paint just like all my other images 
here is the line art incase anyone wishes to color it or just simply see how my actual line art looks :P
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here is the image before I added the final dark gradient over it and shrunk it down 
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IGNORANT PPL ON FB HAVE SAID THIS IS NOT MY ART :/ wont lie pissed me off but owell yuo guys know I did it 
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thunderstudent Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2015
It would be a close fight, Beers would need to be careful he doesn't get possessed like Nouva Shenron did during the final battle. 
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Well of we include non canon work we see Beerus isn't possessible in Xenoverse when demigra try's it.
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thunderstudent Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2015
Again, GT being canon or not is debatable. I can see why some people would say it wasn't and I respectfully disagree. Now until I see an article saying Akira Toryiama said it wasn't from an interview from a reliable source then I'd concede the point. I'd personally like to see GT rewritten with keeping the best of it like the last three sagas and Super Saiyan 4 to added to the new series. But I'm not trying to start a debate here, I'm just saying Beers would need to be careful while fighting Omega Shenron. Even if he couldn't possess Beers he would try.
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
XD GT is not by Akira toriyama and doesn't follow his canon story which is why it is not canon.

Akira himself stated GT to be a Side story, which is the same thing he calls fan mangas.

GT is a continuation to the DBZ Anime, which is full of filler scenes episodes dialog etc...

GT is not canon to Akiras Manga, battle of Gods ressurrction F and DB Super are canon to his manga...

Now aside from most of the things that are obvious to prove my point I'll ask you this...

In canon material Goku no longer uses anything over SSJ1, in fact his SSJ1 form is not called SSJGSSJ due to him absorbing and mastering the SSJG from battle of gods.


Did you see any blue haired SSJs in GT?

GT is and always will be a non canon alternate universe... Nothing more... There's no debating that XD
It has also been proven to be an alternate reality with a few facts my fav 3 are

1)
Pan is older then Bra in Z but younger in GT

2)
Pilafs gang is young in Z super old in GT

3) ( my most fav )
In Z canon one does not keep their body in the afterlife. ONLY those deemed worthy by the kais are allowed to keep their bodies. Evil souls such as freeza cell etc are sent to hell to be cleansed have their memories erased and be reincarnated.

This makes the WHOLE super 17 saga impossible.

Dragon ball universe canon consist of

Jaco the galactic space patrol

Dragon ball minus

Dragon ball ( manga )

DBZ ( manga )

Yo son Goku and friends return ( manga )

BOG

RoF

DBS

Anything not listed is NOT canon therefore it does Not apply to Akiras story...
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thunderstudent Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2015
Okay, you really want to go this route? Fine

1.  Akira Toryiama was the head of production in GT and used the same process as the DBZ anime. It's as valad in canon as the DBZ anime since he did a lot of work on the series and was said to have been happy with the work they did.

2.  Reference? When did he say this? Point to your reference if you're going to use quotes. 

3.  GT has the least inconsistencies of all 3 series

4.  We have yet to see Bra or Pan in the most recent series.

5.  It's been DECADES since DBZ ended, they'd start to show age because their bodies are getting physically older. It's a fact of life. We see it with Bulma and Chichi. The only reason Goku and Vegeta are NOT as old looking is because Saiyans keep their prime longer than humans

6.  GT was made over two decades ago long before BOTG and RoF were made. For all we know Goku and Vegeta lose the ability to use Godly ki for some unexplained reason.

7.  We've seen evil souls retain their bodies before, most recently in the Buu Saga. Plus the Hell Angels were keeping Frieza in place, why would they need to do that if his soul was to be purified anyway? One explanation is that they committed such atrocities in life that a physical body is required to make them suffer for their crimes. This makes the Super 17 saga very possible.

8. Every event from Dragon Ball to GT is listed in an official time line.

9.  It's STILL called Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan because it's the Super Saiyan form infused with Godly Ki. It's NOT the normal level of Super Saiyan 
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Also Id like to say this once again The DBZ Anime is NON-CANON, Toie Animation Added/Changed Dialog Added Scenes/Episodes/Scenarios and didn't follow akiras CANON... The only things that count as canon I have already listed ABOVE but I will list them again just to help you find it :) 


EVERYTHING BELOW IS BY AKIRA HIMSELF 

Dragon ball universe canon consist of 

Jaco the galactic space patrol 

Dragon ball minus ( Drawn/Written BY AKIRA )

Dragon ball ( manga BY Akira )

DBZ ( manga BY Akira )

Yo son Goku and friends return (Movie & manga Written By Akira)

BOG ( Written by Akira )

RoF ( Written by Akira )

DBS ( Anime Written by Akira, Manga Written By Akira drawn by Toyble ) 

Anything not listed is NOT canon therefore it does Not apply to Akiras story...

see how Akira wrote all of those... Thats what makes them canon to HIS story....

example if You wrote a comic book I read it and I decided to write a spin off would that spin off then become apart of your writing? 
the answer is no it belongs to me I wrote it, Id have to credit you as the original creator and you'd get royalties if I made money off of it but the material is mine...

Same goes for DBGT Toie wrote it the series belongs to them it is not apart of Akiras story... 
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
CTFU YES WE CAN GO THERE XD

First of all your first point was 100% wrong! 

Akira did not write OR produce GT AT ALL, It was all done by Toie animation CTFU Ill Quote the exact lines from the interviews Im talking about XD .... where the hell do you get your facts from? 


"The people from the TV anime were wanting to continue just a little further, but since I didn't want to do any more than I already had, I ended up leaving everything, including the story, up to the people on the anime staff. "

"
In GT, the only contributions that I made were the title, the initial main character designs, some of the mecha designs, and a number of image cuts. But thanks to the excellent staff that I was having keep continuing Dragon Ball, I was able to relax and leave it to them."

"If you are able, along with me, to enjoy watching the original Dragon Ball's grand side-story Dragon Ball GT, you will be pleased. "

all of these quotes are from a interview which can be found on Kanzenshuu just google Akira Toriyama GT and you will find it!

that covered #s 1,&2

now Ill address #3 and also point out that you are once again incorrect, The most inconsistencies are in Toies universe including the dragon ball anime, DBZ anime, & DBGT anime. The filler material causes the inconsistencies XD 

#4 Videl is pregnant with Pan in BOG, Pan is a baby in RoF..... Ill let that sink in XD 

#5 In BOG which is a canon movie, Pilaf and his gang are wished back to children. In RoF when they get a second chance at the dragonballs they wish for money making them rich... Again ill let that sink in......

#6 GT was indeed made long before BOG ROF and DBS, However GT was made by Toie. BOG ROF AND DBS were made by Akira and stated to be CANON continuations of Akiras manga series. Ill again post a quote that can be found on Kanzenshuu from akira himself about DBS


"
“Dragon Ball Super” is a complete continuation of the Majin Buu story arc. It’s got a bit of post-battle aftermath, continues with the “Battle of Gods” arc where the God of Destruction Beerus appears and the “Revival of ‘F'” arc where Freeza comes back to life, and then, I’ve written a strange new story where they finally depart from this universe. They’re fighting against their neighbors, Universe 6! They’ll yell at me if I give away too many spoilers, so I’ll keep the rest a secret, but they’re chasing after giant Super Dragon Balls; I think things will unfold in a bright and simple way, that will be really fun and exciting!

Since it’s another universe, loads of new characters will turn up. I’ll do my best to draw the tons of character designs necessary, so I’m looking forward to this too.

You know, it suddenly occurs to me that somewhere along the line the Dragon Ball anime has become quite a huge story. Since I’m the guy who drew the thing, it’s a bit weird for me to say this, but when I first started out I never dreamed it would have a universe as a setting (laughs). Don’t worry though, it’s still going to be the same sort of easy-to-understand content as always. Please be sure to watch Dragon Ball Super on TV!"


NOW with that being said please explain to me how one can master SSJG to the point of SSJGSSJ and loose it.. Also explain to me how two main characters completely vanish ( whis and Beerus ) then explain to me why this traveling to another universe isn't mentioned in DBGT or how about the Super Dragonballs XD ... oh wait .... you cant ... because these are canon events that did not take place in GTs non canon universe XD...

#7 we have never seen souls in their bodies in ANY of the DB or DBZ manga XD I feel you my friend are confusing FILLER MATERIAL (NON CANON) for CANON. Freeza being so evil was sealed away in his own hell and watched over by guardian angels... that is nowhere near the same as what we see in GT...

ALSO since were talking about freeza, Explain to me why the hell hes so weak in GT, Or why he doesn't have his golden form, OR how hes not in his cocoon? AGAIN because its not canon....


#8 CTFU stop pulling ish out your ass nothing in GT is listed in an official timeline. Ive read EVERY interview I own ALL the mangas and Ive seen all the official material released. I have to stay brushed up on my dbz FACTS in order to stay as close to canon as I possibly can with DBSQ... 

#9 I never said it was normal SSJ level now did I? Goku absorbed SSJG making that his base.. Then he masters the ki/power and it is applied to his SSJ meaning SSJGSSJ is SSJG X50 at the very least because it is a SSJG that has gone SSJ XD very self explanatory 
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thunderstudent Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2015
Again GT came BEFORE all this in production and you're extremely mistaken. Akira Toryiama was as involved as he was in the DBZ anime. He was the executive producer. Also if Bra wasn't born before Pan then why is she still older than Pan IN THE VERY LAST EPISODE OF DBZ?!?! Does this mean that the end of DBZ is no longer canon? Also we've seen characters appear and vanish for no reason before. Emperor Pilfa and his cronies for instance. While I don't have all the answers for all your points until Akira brings the new series past the time where GT starts. While I'm not very enthusiastic over Dragon Ball Super {Giant super Dragon balls? Uuug. I'll pass.} I will continue to research see if I can further and better defend GT in the future.   
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
OMG, You obviously know nothing about DBZ or maybe you just don't know the difference between canon and non canon XD

Bra was NOT older then pan in DBZ they are a year apart Pan is older. 

When Bra and Pan are shown in EOZ bra is only 3 and Pan is 4 

Bra is only older then pan in GT which is NOT canon. 

In BOG Videl is pregnant Bulma isn't, Nor is Bra anywhere to be seen now is she? BECAUSE SHE ISN'T ALIVE YET! If she were they wouldn't have needed videl to do the ritual XD 

It's never stated in the series itself, but the guidebooks have Pan's birth year as Age 779, and Bra's as Age 780. (Battle of Gods takes place in Age 778.)

At the same time, there is good reason for confusion. An error in Daizenshuu 7 (not corrected in Chōzenshū 4) lists Bra's birth year as "778" in her biography, even though it's 780 on the timeline. Everywhere else, including the GT Perfect Files, uses 780, so we can take that as her "official" birth year.

Akira did not supervise GT in any way I gave you the quotes from his very own interview he did not want to be apart of it so he let them do it... smh 

WTF does GT coming first have to do with Akira continuing his series?

GT is BY TOIE NOT AKIRA. The new material is Akiras continuation, GT is Toie's WTF dont you get about that? CTFU Im sorry but that really isn't hard to understand. GT has NEVER been canon YES its apart of the DBU ( Dragon Ball Universe ) But its not canon... 

as for your opinion on super Who cares if you'll pass lol its canon GT isnt thats the only point i'm trying to get across to you..... 

there is no defending GT when it comes to this because it is fact XD ..... you haven't been able to answer one question that i've asked hahahaha nor did you acknowledge any of the quotes from akiras interviews, its like you just dont wanna believe that its not canon XD 

its no biggie really... I dont dislike GT I own the whole box set watched it multiple times read translations of the perfect files and all... its just not canon and has major flaws 
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lolalove89 Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2015  New Deviant
Lol omega shenron no match for the invincible lord beerus
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avgnfan55 Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
As much as I hate GT, this is very satisfying
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TVnGames Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh c'mon, gt isn't that, after all we have the villains, Ssj4, its adventurous as DB
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avgnfan55 Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
The villians were ether rehashed, or just not engaging like DBZ villains were. SSj4 looked stupid, and with Goku and Vegeta training as Super Saiyan Gods, SSj4 has been rendered obsolete (and non canon from the looks of it.)

And Goku becoming a kid again, was the worst idea they could possible do.

From what I've seen from Battle of Gods, and Resurrection of Frieza, GT has been rendered Non canon
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TVnGames Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nobody complained that Lord Slug was a rehash of King Piccolo, or Hildegarn was a rip off of Godzilla or any other Kajiu. Or DBZ villains weren't like the Original DB villains. I pick SSj4 over SSjG because it's not a recolor. SSjG is nothing special, God Ki or not it's still Ki. GT is it's own thing just like Z and Original DB.

Why? He only turned into a kid, that's it. I don't think it's that much of a bad idea

Same with the other movies like Broly, and stuff like that.
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avgnfan55 Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Look...I don't want to argue about this. Only that it seems the new movies and Series, seem to be writing GT out of existence. And I appreciate that.
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TVnGames Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah, okay. :)
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avgnfan55 Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
The Final nail in GT's coffin will be Videl and Gohan having a boy.
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DA-MANLY-MAN Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2015
A boy? They have Pan
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
XD
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delvallejoel Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
I trully do wonder if Omega Shenron is able to go head-to-head with Lord Beerus.
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
I highly doubt it 
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delvallejoel Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Exactly!
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Omega isnt even on the same level of lord Beerus 
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delvallejoel Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Otherwise Beerus is actually at the different level compared to Omega Shenron. Though I can't quite figure if Beerus is a Solar System buster or Galaxy buster if he was all serious.
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
nahhh Beerus is FAR beyond that of Omega shenron.


Omega really isn't all that powerful hell GT isn't really as powerful as most believe. GT perfect files which were created by the creators place baby saga ssj4 goku equal to that of buu saga super vegetto. 

the failed attempt in becoming SSJG surpassed buu saga vegetto by a landslide. there are two things proving that.

1) its stated right after the failed attempt that Goku had just became the strongest being in history. In order to be the strongest being in history you have to surpass the previous one which was buu saga Vegetto.

2) After Goku's first fight with Beerus he states that not even a current fusion ( which would be WAY WAY stronger then the Buu saga version ) would be even close to defeating Lord Beerus. 

so with that we know that failed attempt surpassed SSJ4 Goku by a large margin. Some will say oh that was just the baby saga version he had upteen boost after that which is very true however most of them were temporary boost which he burned threw kind of a lend me your power kinda deal once he used it up it was gone.. even so as i mentioned before that was the failed attempt.

the actual SSJG transformation was Leagues above the failed attempt so much so that Goku himself was in disbelief stating that this was a whole new world of power and that he would NEVER be able to achieve such a power on his own. Which is a huge statement coming from Goku. I myself would place SSJG Goku at the very least in able to take the shadow dragons and at the most Omega Beerus I believe would take omega but meet his match at Gogeta SSJ4 Whis would solo all of GT.

we also have the fact that AKira himself claimed Beerus and Whis to be the strongest beings in all of the DB universe.

Derek P. AKA the Dao of Dragon Ball helped malik come up with his Power Levels for his fan series DBNA and they placed omega at a 2 or 3 SSJG Goku was at a 6 Beerus a 10, Yes these are just fan calculations but they are no ordinary fan calculations. They happen to be some of the most educated dbz fans there are. 

any who if you go off of actual facts its spelled out for ya Z>Gt before BOG this statement obviously wasnt true but with GT being a non canon alternate universe in which the events of the last three canon movies dont take place Z now is greater then GT :)
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delvallejoel Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
That's what I meant by "level", between that dragon with a GOD that I've mentioned. It's obvious that Whis can handle the rest on his own as he's the mentor of Lord Beerus as the strongest in the Dragon Ball universe. I've seen the movie multiple times over and over, and I already understood from the fight between the Super Saiyan God and the God of Destruction. When Goku reverts back to his base, he's basically a "Saiyan beyond God" as his body absorbs and adapts to the godly ki and made it as his own. I know Lord Beerus is the strongest compared to Omega Shenron. It's not that I don't know any about it! ^^;
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
ahhhhh I thought you said Beerus was weaker I misread
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LucasRex Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2015
Poor Omega Shenron..
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
XD
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PkmnTrainerDrew Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
My money is on Birus after all he is a GOD!
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Lol of course but his power is the reason not just the fact that he is a god
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sonicluke Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2015
Cool :) Dragon ball Gt Battle of Gods 2 XD
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Hahaha
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sonicluke Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2015
Lolz XD
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kacript Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2015
That would be some fight though dificult to tell the winner since they take place in alternate timelines and the characters of both timelines have both gotten significantly stronger to unknown degrees.
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Yeah, I myself believe Beerus would STOMP Omega for many reasons. My main reason being that GT Perfect files stated Post Baby saga SSJ4 Goku to be EQUAL to that of Super Vegetto. Goku surpassed that by a large margin in the failed attempt to become SSJG. when he actually reached SSJG he was in disbelief stating he would never reach a level so powerful on his own. I think alot of PPL over exaggerate GT because they fail to read the perfect files and get the real facts :P 
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shydood3 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2015
omega shenron is confirmed to be in dbz xenoverse, now we can see these 2 fight.
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
doesnt really matter when it comes to a video game kid goten can defeat omega shenron and beerus if the player is skilled enough 
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shydood3 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2015
Abetter than nothing, wonder if there will be a unique intro to the fight like if beerus will be like " what the hell is this dragon? Or something like that
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Doubt it... Omega actually hasn't been approved only thing that was approved was GT Goku pan and trunks.
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shydood3 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2015
Nope omega and ssj 4 gogeta are confirmed
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Ive seen nothing about omega but I dont doubt he will be in it considering other GT characters are confirmed.

anywho as I said before video games dont matter the characters are all able to beat eachother 
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Haha shows how much I really pay attention to that game :P

The story mode is gonna be something sweet tho!
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stryka93 Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2014  Student General Artist
Me and Dragon ball a love hate relationship. LoL. Bill is sweet but OS hate his look actually I hate the look of the entire GT except for SS4 and super 17 but everything else was ugly expescially Trunks design was just terrible.
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
GT isn't canon so no worries there :P I love lord Beerus tho
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stryka93 Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2014  Student General Artist
Thank Supreme Kai for that :D
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Moffett1990 Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Yes
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YuraofthehairFan Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2014
Now god Frieza can get a turn XD at the gt characters lol
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electrolizei0 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
there were 7 gods? Beerus is the weakest of them all? :(
anyway Omega is just no match for him, a punch like that? instant death.
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